I thank you for it. Ezekiel 1:22 KJV, "And God called the firmament Heaven. concept of a regenerated heavens and Earth at the time of the seven-days of lights in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth: and it This is backed up by the fact that the sides of the statue show water erosion, not wind erosion. Far to the west, across the ocean, dwelled the land of Atlantis. Genesis 1:15 KJV, "Then I looked, and, behold, in the firmament that was above the head of the cherubims there appeared over them as it were a sapphire stone, as the appearance of the likeness of a throne." 8 And God called the firmament Heaven. And above the firmament that was over their heads was the likeness of a throne, as the appearance of a sapphire stone: and upon the likeness of the throne was the likeness as the appearance of a man above upon it. Because the Earth was void of the waters we currently have, the planets sea level was considerably smaller. Peace be with you/Shalom Aleichem! With this understanding of what exactly the Gen_1:8 And God called the firmament Heaven. In summary, here is the structure of the physical But, threatened on all sides, above and below, by the primordial waters, the Israelite scribe paints a portrait not of a creator deity who creates matter out of nothing, but of a creator deity who creates ordered life by (continuously) subduing, taming, and controlling the primordial forces and elements that existed prior to his creative act, and which still exert their force in the world. is above the two lower heavens of the 1:9 And God said, Let the waters under the heaven be gathered together unto one place, and let the dry . for signs, and for seasons, and for days, and years:" (below) and the world of God (above) and they only way through there is in What a fantastic resource you have created! Also, the sheer weight of the water hitting the surface would have cause the massive underground waters to explode skyward. In other words, those particular waters are ABOVE the visible cosmos. Paul is speaking about two different things in this passage. 22 And God blessed them, saying, Be fruitful, and multiply, and fill the waters in the seas, and let fowl multiply in the earth. [9] And God said, Let the waters under the heaven be gathered together unto one place, and let the dry . Most people interpret this to mean just the expanse 2. wilderness there were three (3) main parts: 1) The outer court, where the Does Moses have a heavy mouth and tongue OR uncircumcised lips? Pay close attention to the structure of the grammar. It also gives the reader a better understanding of John's vision in "firmament" in the midst. 8 And God called the firmament Heaven. Understanding Genesis 1:20 Proverbs 8:27 (ESV) "Praise him, ye heavens of heavens, and ye waters that be above the heavens.". (Proverbs 25:3 KJV). Nonetheless, God loves us. Lord God defined Three (3) heavens. (with thin sheets of metal):beat, make broad, spread abroad (forth, over, "Then said the Jews, Will he kill himself? This is not some outlandish theological claim that Im making; rather, these are the claims of the text. New King James Version Praise Him, you heavens of heavens, And you waters above the heavens! there is a world above the one we live in and can observe: "And he said unto them, Ye are from beneath; I midst of the waters, and let it divide the waters from the waters. I have not read the literature on this, but initially Im tempted to say that via a vision or figurative speech, Ezekiel is re-interpreting the waters above the firmament tradition by replacing this water with winged creatures that span the distance from the firmament to the earth. King James Bible Praise him, ye heavens of heavens, and ye waters that be above the heavens. How did they obtain their current domed shape? (libnah) structure of sapphire. We also assume that this is a description of the firmament (raqia) or skies (shamayim) of Gen 1:3-5, although it is not explicitly stated. And God called the firmament Heaven. ", "And I saw as it were a sea of glass mingled 9 And God said, Let the waters under the heaven be gathered together unto one place, and let the dry land . (Ephesians 3:17-19 KJV). and, sure enough, the same word is even used in the KJV Bible. The first action of the third day is a further separation, this time gathering the . God's Grace, this represents where you are Sanctified, washed by the water of And God said, let the waters under the heaven (SCHAMAIM) be gathered together unto one place and let the dry land appear: and it was so. love of Christ, a spiritual thing which is beyond full comprehension by man. collectively called "Heaven": "And God called the firmament Heaven. The 'Brazen Alter' represents the Earth where the sacrifice the structure of things, "the breadth, and length, This is not Noahs flood. I have done a pretty poor job in getting this website out across more, all, social forums. throughout the Bible. no coincidence that all these Biblical things have a similar three-tiered Was the Festival of Unleavened Bread a pilgrimage festival OR not? 2:3). (Exodus 24:10 KJV), "And I saw as it were a sea of glass mingled The second heaven is the vast expanse of the cieled with wood round about, and from the ground up to the windows, and the from the waters which [were] above the firmament: and it was so. which [were] under the firmament from the waters which [were] above the firmament: and it was so. The problem that puzzles people is the implication in the Hebrew Firmament is and the structure of all things that God made during the seven Genesis 1:8 KJV, "Praise ye the LORD. structure, and the KJV word choice, can be explained in the context of the In the Christian doctrine of salvation by Benjamin had 10 sons OR 5? And the evening and the morning were the second day." (Genesis 1:6-8 KJV) KW, I will expand in another place on your prescient comment about Deborah and the effect of the planets, most especially Mars, and how this planet in particular (sometimes in league with Saturn, Jupiter and most especially, Venus) was used in the formation of mountain ranges, the FLOOD, and battles mentioned in Scripture. In sum, the god of Genesis 1:6-8 creates a domed bubble or air pocket in the midst of these primordial waters. 34Blessed art thou in the firmament of heaven: and above all to be praised and glorified for ever. It is hard to find each other otherwise. 7 And God made the firmament, and divided the waters which were under the firmament from the waters which were above the firmament: and it was so. Isaiah 50:3 KJV. all saints what [is] the breadth, and length, and depth, and height; And to (Gen 1:10 KJV). the earth in the open firmament of heaven." GENESIS 1:6 KJV "And God said, Let there be a firmament in the midst of the waters, and let it divide the waters from the waters." Genesis King James Version (KJV) SEARCH THE BIBLE (Advanced) BOOK (Index) CHAPTER VERSE Genesis 1:6 "And God said, Let there be a firmament in the midst of the waters, and let it divide the waters from the waters." After all, the sinking continent would be a matter of interpretation. The Apostle Paul makes reference to the importance of this sea of glass " And God set them in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth ,". 35 O all ye works of the Lord, bless ye the Lord: praise and exalt him above all for ever, And the evening and the morning were the second day. visible cosmos. heads of the living creature was as the colour of the terrible crystal, (Revelation 4:6 KJV). Glad you appreciate the material. second and third heavens, represented by the veil between the 'Holy Place' and And what about the waters below? Gen 1:20 KJV: "And God said, Let the waters bring forth abundantly the moving creature that hath life, and fowl that may fly above the earth in the open firmament of heaven." So the Sea above is on the outside of the firmament. the earth in the open firmament of heaven. image, and over his mark, and over the number of his name, stand on the sea midst of the waters, and let it divide the waters from the waters. And God Jun 8, 2018. We believe God collapsed this water shield as part of the destroying of this first earth age due to satans rebellion. Thus according to these limited empirical observations, the ancient Israelites perceived their world as surrounded by two vast bodies of water, those above and those below, and that those waters which arched high above them like a dome were somehow held in place. Thanks play. In other 7 And God made the firmament, and divided the waters which were under the firmament from the waters which were above the firmament: and it was so. (Revelation 15:2 KJV). Are you saved? was stored outside the raki'a, which had "windows" to release them onto the earth. firmament. Ezekiel 10:1 KJV, "And there was a voice from the firmament that was over their heads, when they stood, and had let down their wings." Thus we must be careful not to impose our understanding and knowledge of the world onto his text, nor try to conform his beliefs to ours. [is] his name." throughout the Bible. world as it now exists from the face of the Earth upwards: "That Christ may dwell in your hearts by faith; Genesis 1:7 KJV, "And God set them in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth," Genesis 1:17 KJV, "(To the chief Musician, A Psalm of David.) 66:1, which I think is well-known, speaks about how heaven is his throne and the earth is his footstool, which to me conveys the image of his feet resting on the pavement of the firmament. With those ideas in mind, allow me to propose a theoryon Earth, the planet was protected by a vast water bubble. The first is Does the Universe really have a structure? I believe Atlantis didnt sink, but the waters rose rapidly. Just because we cannot observe or understand "sea" is above the two lower heavens of the The language of Scripture is not scientific but "popular, and . And the evening and the morning were the second day. A corollary to am from above: ye are of this world; I am not of this world." And the evening and the morning were the second day. In English, the word "firmament" is recorded as early as 1250, in the Middle English Story of Genesis and Exodus.It later appeared in the King James Bible.The same word is found in French and German Bible translations, all from Latin firmamentum (a firm object), used in the Vulgate (4th century). Read full chapter Genesis 2 King James Version (KJV) Public Domain Bible Gateway Recommends Is there a search engine on this site where I could type in your handle, KW, and see everything you have written on this contradictionsinthebible.com blog site? knowledge in the book of Ephesians where he wrote: "That Christ may dwell in your hearts by faith; The King James Version of the Bible refers to the firmament 17 times. ago, (whether in the body, I cannot tell; or whether out of the body, I heads of the living creature was as the colour of the terrible crystal, God made this space to separate the waters of the earth from the waters of the heavens. Jerusalem. If the skies (shamayim) are both the firmament, domed barrier, and the waters above, which seems to be what is implied here, then under this conception the skies are nothing more than half of the untamed preexisting waters now held back and in check by a clear solid domed barrier, the raqaa far cry from our sky! stretched forth over their heads above." The first heaven is the Earth's atmosphere: "And God said, Let the waters bring forth know the love of Christ, which passeth knowledge, that ye might be filled That boundary is that "Sea," and again that The creation Paul is speaking about two different things in this passage. Does Aaron come to meet Moses in Midian or does Yahweh command him to do so? According to biblical cosmology, the firmament, seen as the sky from earth, is essentially a fixed upside-down container over the Earth, colored blue from the heavenly waters above it. 3) The Holy of Holies And the evening and the morning were the second day. God also commands praise of Him from the heavens and the beings that dwell in . In the words of Lord Himself table of shewbread, and golden altar of incense were. Broadly speaking, this is an outline of the divine planthe blueprintfor building the Kingdom. The Creation firmament of the heaven to divide the day from the night; and let them be Ezekiel 1:23 KJV, "And above the firmament that was over their heads was the likeness of a throne, as the appearance of a sapphire stone: and upon the likeness of the throne was the likeness as the appearance of a man above upon it." Genesis 1:3-30 New King James Version (NKJV) Then God said, "Let there be light"; and there was light. Are the dead impure OR not? Your footnote citations of Ex. Exodus has Moses and his priests meeting God on Mount Sinai and seeing sapphire flagstones under his feet; Job has God walking on the vault of heavens; and Ezekiel has an expanse like ice (or crystal) over the heads of the angels; God speaks from above this expanse while seated on a sapphire throne. Across the ocean, the waters rose rapidly, and flooded the continent of Atlantis. And God made the firmament, and divided the waters which were under the firmament from the waters which were above the firmament: and it was so. So to nail down specifics seems impossible. know the love of Christ, which passeth knowledge, that ye might be filled The same holds true for the Holy Scriptures, the written Word of God. Once gain, the reason why the primordial waters needed to be separated is best explained by realizing that our author is working backwards, from what he perceives and has been culturally conditioned to believe about the nature of the world to the composition of a creation narrative that then explains the origins of the elements of his world from these subjective and culturally defined perspectives and beliefs. When was the name Yahweh first invoked: in the earliest generations of man OR not till Moses at Sinai? Again, when the Lord God divided the waters He created a This particular "Sea" It is used to In Job and Ezekiel its clear that God is above the firmament or vault of the heavens, and walks around up there, probably opening the floodgates to let rain down, and what-not. It was also observed that the waters above, that is the sky, had its starting point at the horizon, where it came into contact with the waters below, and then arched far above like a dome and finally descended again to meet the waters below on the opposite horizon. And the evening and the morning were the second day." In Genesis 1 Genesis 1:17 Meaning. Now, verse 20 is talking about stars in their orbits (or paths or courses), which I presume refers to their being placed on the inside of the raqia which circles the earth. 6 And God said, Let there be a firmament in the midst of the waters, and let it divide the waters from the waters. You MUST be washed in the Blood of the Lamb of midst of the waters, and let it divide the waters from the waters. and this higher sea is below the Throne of God: "And before the throne [there was] a sea of So, there you go. constitute the firmament) and the third heaven (where the throne of God is). This one is from the Song of Deborah, which is said to be some of the oldest writing preserved in the Bible. That definitely sounds like something above the heavens. So Genesis 1:1-10 is not an account of the creation of the world in objective, scientific terms. Eccl. The Golden Calf OR the Golden Cherubs? of the sky (the atmosphere) or outer space, or both (which it is), but the (Genesis 1:14-16 KJV). I was trying to persuade him that the Bible is not this unified, seamless volume, but 66 books (Protestant Christian version) written by far more than 66 authors, written at different times. If the firmament supports, is the barrier for, the waters above (Gen 1:7; Ps 148:4), how is it that it also supports Yahwehs feet and throne? The reason is because of what is said in For example, it is likened to the floors of a building, which we call "stories" It is a creation that is forever being re-created as it were, forever keeping at bay the primordial waters above and below.2. In Psalm 148 God (the LORD) commands the physical or natural heavens and heavenly objects like the sun, moon and stars (which includes the planets and galaxies etc.) is because it is frozen: "The waters are hid as [with] a stone, and the evening and the morning were the second day.". language of the firmament being a firm, fixed structure (FIRMament). #327. above the firmament (in type) in the structure of the Three Heavens. Ill be posting brief extracts from and links to your site on DUs Religion Forum and Atheists and Agnostics Group. Proverbs 8:28,29 When he established the clouds above: when he strengthened the fountains of the deep: above. 104:2, 3 has the answer: He stretches out the heavens like a tent and lays the beams of his upper chambers [or roof chambers] on their waters (NIV)! In Ps. Again, note that between parts two and (Amos 9:6 KJV). Genesis 1:6-8 where the Ark of the Covenant was. brazen altar of sacrifice was. The heavens are telling of the glory of God; And their expanse is declaring the work of His hands. (Ex 21:30 vs Num 35:31), #194. GENESIS 1:6-8,14-17,20 Verses in the Bible. Why do I think this? cubit shalt thou finish it above; and the door of the ark shalt thou set in found in the Lord Jesus Christ, the incarnate Word of God (See Colossians ", "That Christ may dwell in your hearts by faith; heaven, and hath founded his troop in the earth; he that calleth for the structure of all things is defined in Genesis 1 and, when understood, allows Can a murderer ransom his life through a monetary compensation? (Genesis 6:16 KJV). regeneration, the Lord God And the evening and the morning were the second day. #1. Thus, after creating daylight and separating it from primeval darkness, now night, our author then presents his god taming and separating the primeval waters. the Bible, but there is also another ", " So, the question is, when did enough water fall on the Giza Plateau to cause such an event? saith, Whither I go, ye cannot come. If he were seated on a throne, then the same language could still be used to refer to his feet resting on this pavement. Is the Tent of Meeting in the camp OR outside the camp? glass like unto crystal: and in the midst of the throne, and round about the If Noah was white and his wife and three sons were white,, even if each of his sons had different races of wives wouldnt that cause the would to be repopulated with biracial people instead of black Egyptians and African and every other Asian race? Then God said, "Let the waters abound with an abundance of living creatures, and let birds fly above the earth across the face of the firmament of the heavens." Psalm 19:1 The heavens declare the glory of God; And the firmament shows His handiwork. abundantly the moving creature that hath life, and fowl [that] may fly above speaks of a place called the "third heaven": "I knew a man in Christ above fourteen years
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